Amazing Grace! greasy or not?Posted: September 25, 2013
John 1:15-17 New International Version (NIV)
15 (John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’”) 16 Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
GREASY GRACE and SLOPPY AGAPE
Heard either of these terms being used in the Body of Believers today? I am not going to spend much time disputing those who use these terms… I choose to spend much more time praying for them.
I must admit, I cannot even fathom what these folks are alluding to when they use these words to describe God’s Grace or His Agape Love.. Maybe you can? … I think they must have misunderstood God’s nature, character and Heart altogether and are trapped in performance theology or a works based religious mentality at best… at worst, I don’t know?
Like I said, I really cannot conceive of what they mean and I will not stay around them long enough to ask or find out what they are trying to accomplish in God’s Church founded by “The Grace and Love of God in the flesh.” — Jesus
Also, I would like to say, I know there are many of us who have not been exposed to these rude and crude terms abusing our Loving and Gracious Father and Savior… and that is Great. This is for those who have.
Enough of this… Now I would like to change the subject back to “Amazing Grace” if you don’t mind…
Just briefly if I may, Redirect your attention to John 1:15-17..?? ..Especially verse 16 which we hear very little today from the modern western pulpit, Because it doesn’t fit well into our current performance based theology… [ 16 Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. ] …Do you see it? “we all have received grace in place of grace already given” …What does this mean?? I know what it means to me and I hope you will ponder these words until they mean something to you also…
I am reluctant to explain how I interpret and understand these words because I wish you to have your own interpretation.. and it does not have to be identical to mine.. I will risk it though and hope you too will ponder the Word..
The King James version says: “grace and grace” … There are so many translation today that expand our current views and you can see many of them at www.biblegateway.com ..some say, “grace upon grace”… some, “blessing upon blessing” …others, “abundant grace on top of grace” …All are implying that through Jesus ‘more grace has been given than was provided by the Law of Moses’… and there is our dilemma.. The Law of Moses is/was Grace too! …and this is terribly misunderstood today!
Most folks today do not understand that the Law of Moses provided GRACE and not condemnation..for sin and sinners. The Law of Moses was intended to provide Israel Grace, as a way of relieving their consciences’ from their burden of sin… until a better way appeared… Have you ever heard that before? I hope you have.. and if not, you have now.. The Law was never intended to harm, condemn or sentence anyone to death or Hell.. but to free God’s chosen ones from the Hell of shameful and guilty consciences… understand?
I am not going into all the details of this, because it is not my intentions to convince you! It is my intentions to get you to explore for yourself and so I will provide some links for you to follow should you choose to do so… [ Christus Victor Atonement ] … [ Vicarious or Substitutionary Atonement ] … These are the two most popular theories being taught in the Church today. “Christus Victor” in Eastern Orthodox and “Vicarious” in Western and Roman theology.. and there are others which you can find and explore as well…
There is so much more I am tempted to say, and it is truly hard to restrain myself especially in view of those who appear only to confuse the Body of Christ and to take prisoners to their own twisted theologies and theories without a truly “born again” mind and nature that has been taken captive by the love and obedience of Christ. …But, I am not getting into all of that..
This I will say… Here is GRACE my friend, Hanging on that tree, greased with His Sloppy AGAPE’ love running out of His side, His hands and His feet.. His Heart filled with Love, Compassion, Mercy and Forgiveness for you and I and all those who hung Him there… Here is GRACE and AGAPE’ who asked and pleaded for A better way to Prove a Father’s Agape love and forgiveness to His children in the Garden of Gethsemane until His blood mingled in with His sweat and Who finally agreed that this was the very reason He left the Garden of Eden… to prove beyond all doubt that His Creation, ALL of His Creation has Indeed been freed from the Curse of Sin And Death… Here is GRACE and AGAPE at His dirtiest and slickest moment where He fooled ALL the forces of Evil and Darkness in this fallen world into believing He could be done away with and His flaming passionate agape grace love stuffed out… Agape Grace deceived the Deceiver and Grace, Amazing Grace, Agape Grace sat down on HIS rightful Throne once again…
NO, I cannot explain it all… It goes far beyond my ability to understand.. how He accomplished it all??? But I do know when He cried out from that Tree of Life that Day “Father forgive them” He did… and I know that when He cried out with His last dying breath.. “It is finished” it was!!! …And I am so GLAD it was because I know I could never have figured out how to get back to HIM if He had not first figured out how to get to me… and to you… and that’s all I’ve got to say about it…except Beware of those who would add anything to God’s names that He did not put there Himself…
Jesus is the NAME above ALL names…
Love in Him!
Living Bible (TLB)
16 Now, God gave some promises to Abraham and his Child. And notice that it doesn’t say the promises were to his children, as it would if all his sons—all the Jews—were being spoken of, but to his Child—and that, of course, means Christ. 17 Here’s what I am trying to say: God’s promise to save through faith—and God wrote this promise down and signed it—could not be canceled or changed four hundred and thirty years later when God gave the Ten Commandments. 18 If obeying those laws could save us, then it is obvious that this would be a different way of gaining God’s favor than Abraham’s way, for he simply accepted God’s promise.
19 Well then, why were the laws given? They were added after the promise was given, to show men how guilty they are of breaking God’s laws. But this system of law was to last only until the coming of Christ, the Child to whom God’s promise was made. (And there is this further difference. God gave his laws to angels to give to Moses, who then gave them to the people; 20 but when God gave his promise to Abraham, he did it by himself alone, without angels or Moses as go-betweens.)
21-22 Well then, are God’s laws and God’s promises against each other? Of course not! If we could be saved by his laws, then God would not have had to give us a different way to get out of the grip of sin—for the Scriptures insist we are all its prisoners. The only way out is through faith in Jesus Christ; the way of escape is open to all who believe him.
23 Until Christ came we were guarded by the law, kept in protective custody, so to speak, until we could believe in the coming Savior.